ciao!
while i'm sleeping for the most I know that i'm dreaming, but if i try to be really sure I must look to my right arm for an arm-clock.
But everytime i do this I wake up...and is not a nice wake up...i feel like unable to manage the thing, one day I was dreaming of having sex with a wonderful girl and when i realized i was dreaming the girl turned into an horrible creature...so i just left my self go down in the dream and the nightmare went away with my lucidity.
Last night i tryed again to look at my arm-clock but i reach a sleep paralys...very often i have allucinations during sleep paralys, but this time i was with my front on the bed...i felt going up in the room...i saw passing through the material of my body...i've seen my room...i was floating in it...
in the beginning i was feeling ok..but when i t was everithyng too real...so i started getting scard...
after a while i was in panic ...and then i woke up like after all sleep paralys.
So today i've read wiipedia and i've seen that these experience can be usual after failed lucid dreams...
My question is...is there somebody else that experience bad trips during lucid dreams?
why my lucid dreams always turn into bad trips?
why often my lucid dream turn into sleep paralys?
while i'm sleeping for the most I know that i'm dreaming, but if i try to be really sure I must look to my right arm for an arm-clock.
But everytime i do this I wake up...and is not a nice wake up...i feel like unable to manage the thing, one day I was dreaming of having sex with a wonderful girl and when i realized i was dreaming the girl turned into an horrible creature...so i just left my self go down in the dream and the nightmare went away with my lucidity.
Last night i tryed again to look at my arm-clock but i reach a sleep paralys...very often i have allucinations during sleep paralys, but this time i was with my front on the bed...i felt going up in the room...i saw passing through the material of my body...i've seen my room...i was floating in it...
in the beginning i was feeling ok..but when i t was everithyng too real...so i started getting scard...
after a while i was in panic ...and then i woke up like after all sleep paralys.
So today i've read wiipedia and i've seen that these experience can be usual after failed lucid dreams...
My question is...is there somebody else that experience bad trips during lucid dreams?
why my lucid dreams always turn into bad trips?
why often my lucid dream turn into sleep paralys?
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Re: lucid dreams into nightmares
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 4:28 PMyes, i have had a few frightening lucid experiences, though not many...and when they occur, i simply lose consciousness...
but dream experiences help us to become more conscious in our overall lives, both when asleep and awake...and what you are getting from this is the revelation of your fear...
by taking each experience into a brief contemplation over a period of a few months--causes a greater awareness and understanding of those fears--which in time, will also trigger their release...
these fears are the keys that can take you through new doors of experience.. -
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Re: lucid dreams into nightmares
Tue, December 18, 2007 - 4:49 AM"yes, i have had a few frightening lucid experiences, though not many...and when they occur, i simply lose consciousness..."
yes...you just loose your lucidity and you go down in a real dream...
"by taking each experience into a brief contemplation over a period of a few months--causes a greater awareness and understanding of those fears--which in time, will also trigger their release... "
do you mean that I should have a brief contemplation before lucid dreams?
for me is impossibile...cause lucid dreams just happens while i'm normally sleeping...i'm not able to [b]decide[/b] to have a lucid dream!
I belive that this fears and monsters born to stop my lucid dream...but how can i win against them? I don't know what they reppresent, and i don't have the know-how to understand this symbols!
I'm not sure but I think that each time I reach the lucity the second step is a sleep paralys (i reach what i think is lucidyty only 3 times).
I think that during lucidity i go to much near the surface of reality...
What should I do? Just try to relax even against really frightening images/experience? These bad trip could turn into a nice dream?
Are you sure that all these is not bringing to madness?
I'm asking these 'cause these experience seem to bee extreamly real...are u sure that is not dangerous for mental sanity? -
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Re: lucid dreams into nightmares
Tue, December 18, 2007 - 7:06 AMfirst off, i would suggest that you read my book--its available for free download at:
www.lulu.com/todream
secondly, we all develop our own unique set of symbols regarding analysis...
yes, there are many symbols that have a universal understanding, and when in a deeply lucid experience, you can often just feel their meaning, but--
your guides and the universal energy also uses what is already within your mind, your beliefs and feelings related to things you've seen and experienced, when guiding you through symbols....
so for further clarity, i would look out into the world and adopt a system....many years ago, i found Medicine Cards by Jamie Sams...and because my spirituality is closely related to the native american, they work well for me...
for more reading, my website is:
www.consciousdreaming.org
yes, it sometimes seems like this is the doorway to insanity, but actually, insanity is where we began--ha -
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Re: lucid dreams into nightmares
Sun, January 13, 2008 - 11:01 AMi agree with Moon, these are not "failed lucid dreams" but actually opportunities for growth. psychological growth, as it turns out, is not all rainbows and butterflies. it's about confronting pain, loss, and fear and finding away to hold these perennial human issues for yourself.
i also agree with Moon about developing some sort of practice - whether you consider yourself a religious or spiritual person or are an existentialist, these frightening experiences can be helped with mindfulness practices. tibetan buddhism is another way to go that doesn't require faith in the usual ways, and these monks have been practicing lucid dreaming for thousands of years.
i've personally had many lucid nightmares, and it was these experiences which motivated me to study dreams academically. so don't despair - your nightmares are signals for new growth.
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Re: lucid dreams into nightmares
Tue, January 15, 2008 - 9:48 AMOne of my first bouts of lucid dreaming was during a nightmare. I reached for a light switch to turn on the lights, but I realized that it didn't change the light levels. At that point, I realized I was dreaming, and deliberately changed the scene to something more pleasant. Once the scene changed, I was so shocked that I woke up immediately.
I'd highly recommend practicing meditation of some sort. If you happen to partake of psychedelics, learning how to deal with negative energy/imagery in trips seems to be very similar to dealing with negative energy/imagery in dreams.
The Buddha said that "All suffering is caused by attachment/desire". By learning to detach from things (such as our emotional reaction towards scary imagery, or our attachment to our ego itself) we can rob them of their power over us.
