I've come to the conclusion that all of my lucid dreams have been nothing more than O.B.Es. Most times when i find myself in a lucid dream i notice i am always in the room, bed what have you that i fell asleep in. I merely get out of my bed and try to escape my house...to explore. In my lucid dreams I find myself outside already..in a dream but conscious of the fact. My OBEs are not dreams, they are something different. I meet people, spirits, energy what have you in my astral experiences.

My last "lucid dream" completely blew the lid of what i thought i knew about dreaming. Ive been practicing lucid dreaming for 6 years now. but Ive been experiencing them since i was a child.

In this "dream" i floated out of my bed and as usual found myself in a whirlpool swirling around my room. I was trying to get a better grasp on my lucidity so i did an exercise..or it just happened to happen. I was trying to make a "pillow balloon" float up to the clouds. My room was now some sort of a terrace with awnings which i was jumping from one to the other trying to get higher and higher. aladin style.

I got the balloon pretty high..it started to finally float away. i got excited so i jumped of the awning and tried to catch it or hold onto it, i have no clue what i was trying to do i just wanted to see what would happen.

the balloon was over my bed (where my physical body would be). i dove towards it.....

pheww..how do i explain this...

as i superman jumped up towards the balloon (over my bed) i felt a hand grab me at my belt / waist from the back and it hurled me even further than i expected. i felt the 4 knuckles on my lower back and my pants being lifted a bit from my skin. angels in the outfield style.

i landed on my bed exactly the position as my body was laying. It startled me so much that i woke up. when i did my lower back was tingling as if some energy had just made contact. the knuckle energy feeling faded as i became more awake.

so wtf now?!?! not only was this and OBE, it was a fantastical LD, along with a spiritual realm where spirits/ energy interfere and make physical contact.

I thought i was the go-to-guy when it came to dreaming. now im more confused then ever.

any adivice? i believe in ghosts / spirits / energy / guardian angels even (not sure in the religious sense but in the afterlife spiritual sense)

any way if u do nothing more than read this post, at least dream on...