so i was having this really intense lucid, it was during a nap. I remember i toyed around with the idea of mirrors in the past but never anything serious. this time was different. I was floating around this house as i usually would when i suddenly came to this huge mirror that took up almost an entire wall. I looked into it and saw myslef i then floated into it like stepping to into water. the second i entered the mirror i felt the strongest sense of consciosness / ecstasy/ euphoria whatever you wanna call it. stepping into the mirror i heard a LOUD ringing in my ears as if my brain was trying to adjust to the new waveleangths of this other dimension. I felt more lucid, everything was bright and a feeling, a rush hit me like a beam of light i dunno it was pretty fun....feedback?
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Tue, February 26, 2008 - 1:24 PMWow, that is awesome. Mirrors are powerful symbols on so many levels. Geez, where would one start other than to jump right in. hahaha
Well for Alice fans, I believe mirrors act as portals to other dimensions. She walked through the looking glass and had some powerful experiences and visions. Pablo, you seem to know your way through these type of experiences, and I thank you for sharing your lucid dreams here on tribe.
Can you describe in more detail (if possible) how you felt as you passed through. Could you feel part of your "body" on one side of the mirror and part on the other? Or was it instant shift? Did the ringing have texture or form, or was it just sound? Did colors shift and expand, or did you see other worldly colors after passing though the mirror?
I ask because I have been wanting to have a lucid dream with a mirror, and I'm hoping by sharing more details of your experience, it will help me on my mirror journeys. Please share more if you can? Or anyone else.
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Fri, February 29, 2008 - 12:52 AMyes absolutely.
as i saw my reflection i felt as if my higher conscious had been on the other side the entire time and had been waiting for me to cross. when i saw myself i felt welcome and i wanted nothing more than to enter the mirror. the feeling was very warm and very sharp if that makes any sense. i enterered the mirror and i instantly heard the loud ringing which i slowly adjusted to. the feeling was undescribable but ill do my best. i felt almost as my conscious, my lucid state was rising, i could physically feel it in my brain, like the frequency we are so used to in the waking life had just been turned up and my state of awarness was hightened tenfold. i entered but i was still in this house where i started but it was different. It was more vibrant. i remember floating through the air as if it was water...i could feel the air around me. the second i entered i remember feeling a sense of 360 perception. i was looking straight and had only two eyes but i "felt" everything around me, under me, above me, inside and outside of me, and strange as it sounds in between me. i felt as if the higher conscious which i was staring at from outside the mirror was one with my subconscious and lower conscious. i knew i was lying in my bed in my waking state, but my mind was faaaaar beyond a lucid dream...it was an awakening of the soul.....i felt as if i could figure the answers to anything if i really tried...eventually my eyes adjusted to the bright light and everything seemed just as it had been. while "inside" the mirror world i found the same room with the same huge miirror covering the entire wall (it had a beautiful golden frame around in wich seems to be a reoccuring theme in all my mirror dreams) i once again entered the mirror and the same thing happened. It was as if the moment of entry was a glimpse to the inner soul...it lasted for a short while then faded. I think i reentered this mirror for a third time after the feeling faded.
the ringing was not only in my ears....it was in the air which i was floating in, it was in my brain and somehow it was connected to the entirety which i call my soul. not only did i feel it in my head, but also in my body, in my chest and so on...almost as if the rining was a light that pertruded from somewhere inbetween my brain and my chest and exploded outward to the world around me....which i think is the reason i felt so intune to all my surroundings.
ive had other mirror dreams in the past. my first i tried ramming into but could never fully enter...my second i tried simply floating into whcih i did..in that dream i only stuck my head in the mirror. Instead of a ringing i heard the sound of rushing water and saw what seemed to be a meteor shower....in space....
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Mon, March 3, 2008 - 9:55 PMThanks for the details Pablo
Wow. Not only is lucid dreaming a real, vibrant, intense experience... but consciousness is too.
We do have the ability to create our reality, and I believe that lucid dreaming, as well as astral projection and OBE's are part of being in that creation. I feel it is wisdom and knowledge that EVERY human being has. Every sentient being has, and that it is a part of what makes life worth living.
In waking life we are mostly bound by five senses/three dimensions...
However, while our physical bodies sleep there are other parts of ourselves (which are very much real parts of ourselves) that travel and experience life in a multitude of ways.
We have our fun labels we use to convey these experiences to ourselves and the masses, but words and description can only give a glimpse into the fullness of what is experienced during these moments.
I'm rambling....
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Mon, March 3, 2008 - 9:59 PMOh yeah, and many "vibrations/hamonies/frequencies" I have experienced during lucid dreaming... have had this certain type of feel. Kind of like pins and needles... sometimes with a hum, or buzz which seems really loud but comfortable. Along with the hum there is a pull or wind like feeling (hard to describe.)
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Wed, March 5, 2008 - 11:56 PMwhen im falling asleep im able to pinpoint the moment my brain changes frequencies. it suprises me..yea i feel a humming in my head followed by LOUD ringing that gets sharper and sharper...also it feels like im falling..like you said, a pull
this has happened to me numerous times and most of these times i do not feel comfortable with the sensation..i mean dont get me wrong it feels blissfull but for me it seems to come with baggage. i feel like that moment when im shifting realites (with the ringing) i feel a glimpse of the spirit world before falling into the dream world. im totally still awake during this but feel spirits every where like they are watching me, it feels like im intune to so many things and other minds around me that more times than not frightens me....this has happened to me on different occasions and cant really understand why. sometimes i do not find this state enjoyable almost as if its a stimuli overdose. other times it feels very euphoric which if i let myself go with it i immediately find myself in a dream, lucid and aware.
is this normal to feel uncomfortable at times by this?
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Thu, March 6, 2008 - 5:02 AM> when im falling asleep im able to pinpoint the moment my brain changes frequencies.
Me too, but it's a shake of my body, not a humming. After that I'm still awake, actually the shake often wakes me up to a trance like state. -
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Thu, March 6, 2008 - 10:17 AMIs it normal?
Well its normal if you allow it to be. Accept that learning to travel other dimensions will sometimes be perceived as uncomfortable. One can learn things during challenging and uncomfortable situations. That is part of the grandness of being able to attain these states of being.
I too have moments of uncomfortable fear, or uncertainty. Go with it, and learn to face the demons. All is bliss, and all is one...
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Sat, March 29, 2008 - 1:06 PMmirrors are portals in my dreams too. I've experienced the strange sensations and the rushing, usually for me it is accompanied by some visual static that i call "cosmic snow" - it's like the static on a TV. this is a safe place, do not worry about "demons" in this realm. this is in between, but i have found that it's important to stay focused in this realm because it will offer doorways into new dreams/worlds/etc. so if there's a lot of fear, the resulting scene can be a manifestation fueled by that fear.
When i enter this space, I try to "surrender" and basically maintain a positive, curious intent like in meditation. It's like that world in the Narnia novels where there's hundreds of pools to every world.
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Sun, March 30, 2008 - 8:24 AMCool Pablo!
I would say that you crossed a porthole into a astral or OBE experience . . . the thing to be cautious of is the reflective quality of the mirror . . . I have been studying the idea of mirror image reflection in dreams and meditation for some time now, and the idea of things being backward, opposite, clockwise verse counter clockwise . . . time and space are different in the otherworld, so it is important to know where you are and what you're looking at . . . I spent several hours during a retreat last week doing a dreamers stare exercise into a mirror (diffuse vision, clear mind and meditate looking into a mirror fro15-20 minutes), and all sorts of different phenommnon occurs (bouncing energy, shape shifting, aura magnification, etc.
I have never actually dreamed about a mirror, but I have gone through a glass window during a lucid dream . . . there was a slowing and bending of time and I could here this weird suctioning sound, as if all the molecules in my body were sucked into the glass and release out the other side . . . and then I was in a full-blown astral experience on the other side . . . The load ringing you experienced sounds like the noise that happens as the Abyss or moment of transition to the Otherworld . . .
Anam Cara, Bonnie
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Sun, March 30, 2008 - 10:09 AMthat mirror exercise sounds fun..
in most lucid dreams im able to go through walls and windows even squeeze underneath the crack underneath doors. but this is only possible if im in a deep dream state or if im really calm and relaxed other times i bump into the walls as solids then i have to know not think what im trying to do is very possible. trying to escape through the cieling from a closed place like a house or a room is nearly close to impossible for me. every time ive tried this i float through the cieling and hope to be outside ontop of my house but instead i find myself in the same room coming from the floor. I once floated in and out of the same room about 12 times untill i figured the only way to get outside was through the door so i opened it and vuala.
back to mirrors real quick, there was this time i starred into a mirror (in a dream) and saw myself but as another "self". this other me was wearing ragidy looking clothes hanging off me, my shirt tied around my waist and was dancing frantically almost ritualistic while i was just standing still taking it all in. another time i looked into a mirror and saw no reflection...now that blew my mind in so many ways i wasnt even able to concieve. i could of been terrified at this but instead took it in..this is an image thats pretty hard to imagine even after experiencing this its hard for me to visualize it -
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Mon, March 31, 2008 - 8:03 AM" I figured the only way to get outside was through the door so i opened it and vuala." . . . hahahaha, thanks for the morning chuckle, but it is so true isn't? We get paralysis by our fears when the answer is often very simple, even in ordinary reality . . .
I am into mythology and folklore, so an interesting aspect of the mirror involves the vampire legends . . . Thing about folklore is that its usually based in some fact or phenomenon, but dressed in fear and superstition . . . The rules that developed on how to handle these occurrence have common threads cross culturally, i.e. not inviting them into your home, warding off with garlic and onions, mortals cannot see the reflection of a vampire in a mirror . . . The same with werewolfs and shapeshifting . . . it is amazing the things you can see in your own face after 15-20 diffused viewing . . . I have seen all of my kids faces, my totems, myself in various incarnations, ethnicities, ages, etc., and the eyes, the eyes are the window to the soul, try staring into your own eyes or someone else's for 10-15 minutes, there is a whole world/universe in there. In a dream I wonder if there is a difference in how we would see the ego verses the soul body?? The kid dancing in your dream, is that really you, just your ego, or someone who looked like you . . . a possibility.
Anam Cara, Bonnie
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Thu, April 3, 2008 - 4:32 PMi had a dream similar to this when i first began lucid dreaming. i was in this long hallway in my grandma's trailer, and at the end is her mirror, and i'm standing infront of it, looking into myself, but it begins to feel like the image is instead looking into me. then my image starts to move on its own as i stand still and observe it. the image begins to go step by step into this predictable dance, wanting to teach me, but then breaks out into this... well, goofy madness. just a very funny dance. i should probably be laughing, heh, but i'm just so confused and feeling eerie instead. then it starts to walk away from the mirror, looking back at me, suggesting with its eyes that i follow. this is where i realize i'm in a dream, and that i WILL follow, as a rush of excitement fills me.... then i wake up to my step father shooting his rifle outside :(
hah. always wanted that dream to happen again.. to follow...
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Fri, April 4, 2008 - 7:37 AMjust curious why you capitalized 'Will', it seems significant . . . actually the whole dream seems like much more than a message dream . . . -
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Fri, April 4, 2008 - 8:40 AMwell, i don't lucid dream too often, and that was one of the dreams i had shorty after i began for the first time since childhood, so i put emphasis on "will" because of the sense of curiosity and adventure that overwhelmed me when i realized i was in a dream. not only that, but i felt seen, and wanted to experience something extraordinary within that context. just a huge sense of freedom was present, where as in real life i have deep social phobias, and tend live a very negligent, repetitive and uninspired lifestyle. i guess it sort of seemed like an opportunity to carry an experience with me back that would generate enthusiasm. and these kind of dreams do for a day or week or so, but then i tend to fall back. i feel like my intention is a little more clear now, and i want to face and make sense of things, but to me dreams still seem like something more exciting and inhibited to escape into... -
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Fri, April 4, 2008 - 10:38 AM"i feel like my intention is a little more clear now, and i want to face and make sense of things, but to me dreams still seem like something more exciting and inhibited to escape into..." Interesting, I am working with the principles of 'Will" and 'Intent" and sensed these concepts in your writing . . . I would like to suggest that these dreams are addressing your phobias rather than giving you a place to escape to . . . especially if you are lucid . . . you have been given an opportunity to face your fears . . . if you avoid them they will intensify . . . if you let them pass through you, you will move on . . .
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Fri, April 4, 2008 - 12:24 PMthat makes sense to me. thank you for your responses. i do want to be able to look into my dreams more honestly, and recognize what i can do to make healthier choices in life, and i think a way for me to do that is to share them, to see how i go about sharing them, and to hear other people's responses. taking the time to write them out, and write more in general as a reflection, would be good practices too :)
i feel much more clear inside of the dreams, when i wake up though and reflect i often feel like i see them pretty superficially. although i do want to bring the deeper relationship back with me. . . i believe i am seeing myself from surrounding eyes that i believe see me as still chasing dreams, and should find more practical ways of engaging issues i have. and i know i need to do that too, but i think making sense of my dreams, and being supported in that, could go along way...... so again, thank you for taking the time to respond, it is much appreciated -
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Tue, April 8, 2008 - 1:14 PMI wouldn't call myself anti social, but I do have a very healthy inner world that I don't generally share with others . . . most of my real intense spiritual, dream time, otherworld, sub conscious and emotional introspection has been done on my own . . . I cannot express how important it has been for me to begin interacting with others, and getting feed back for my internal questions . . . Most of the feedback must be taken with a grain of salt, this is your will and intent, not theirs, but they can act as a mirror, sounding board, even an irritation for your own personal work . . . I can tell you how many times I have caught myself saying something out loud, that I have to stop and say to myself "where did that come from?', "Is that what I really believe?, it is it true?" . . . these are thoughts that if left in my head, may never have been explored . . .
Best Wishes, Bonnie
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Fri, April 11, 2008 - 11:52 PMIt's interesting to me that you have difficulty getting through a ceiling from an enclosed area. I have very little experience lucid dream, but on one of the few occasions I was in a house and decided to float up, and was pleasantly surprised when I did. Next I decided to keep floating up through the ceiling and roof and into the sky, but it didn't work. I bumped my head. I always figured this was my subconscious just playing as trickster. -
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Sat, April 12, 2008 - 11:20 AMlol, your passed through the ceiling to bump your head on the sky? awesome! i don't usually have troublepassing throuhg objects. and sometimes i don't pass throuhg them, but i imagine myself to have anyway, and it works. rock on. -
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Sun, April 13, 2008 - 10:10 PMim usually able to pass through objects but cielings..i dunno man its tough.
going through walls is fun, i actually see the molecules that make up the wall surround me as im going through it.
i can relate to clonking your head..when that happens i take a breather and convince myself its very possible and on the second go around it works. -
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Mon, April 14, 2008 - 8:32 AMyou can see the molecules? i usually just pass through blackness...
thats awesome
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Mon, April 14, 2008 - 2:05 PMI guess this is what I was trying to explain above when I passed through the glass window . . . in the dream I really wasn't concerned about flying through the glass, but as I did I noticed a slowing of time, bending, twisting, stretching of the glass (molecules) and then a suctioning sound and feel as I broke through the glass . . . short of sci fi or horror flicks I have no reference for this experience.
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Mon, April 14, 2008 - 7:02 PMyea exactly..everything around me kind of bends slowly particles seem to be moving around me. its like slow motion or something..wow thats weird youve experienced that too. -
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Tue, April 15, 2008 - 4:34 PMIt kinda makes me think of how, in quantum physics kinda way, that shapeshifting, time travel, levitation, walking through walls, etc. could be physically possible . . . breaking down the solid state of the body, so that passing through seemingly solid objects, could just be a matter of shifting a few molecules around . . .
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Sun, April 20, 2008 - 1:52 AMThanks for the head-bonking advice, Pablo. Stopping for a moment & then trying again sounds like a good strategy I haven't tried. I think I'll turn off my computer now & get some sleep so I can try it. -
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Mon, April 21, 2008 - 1:59 AMthis morning I woke and slept, woke and slept, woke and slept. Each time I awoke, I remembered that I wanted to become lucid in my dream. Each time I fell asleep, I lost myself in the dream and was not conscious that I was dreaming. I will keep suggesting to myself that I will awaken within the dream. Also that I will fly. -
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Tue, April 22, 2008 - 10:13 PMi became lucid today during a long nap. i barely got much sleep last night so it was easy to fall into a lucid state. although something weird happened...
i felt as if i was moving at an alarming rate. i felt i was astral traveling. you know when you first start to realize your dreaming.kind of in that half waking half sleeping state? i was there and felt a rush like a roller coaster or if i was free falling. can anyone relate?
anyway this has happened before but this time i was more aware of my state. i noticed..and felt my lip opening and somewhat trembling. it felt like i was ACTUALLY falling to the point where the rushing air was caught in my mouth and making my lips open. i think in my half woken state i touched my lips to see if i was just dreaming it...no they really where halfway open and trembling...weird huh?
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Mon, April 28, 2008 - 3:13 AMsounds dramatic & a little scary
I've dreamed I was skyjumping & the air rushing around my head
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Thu, May 1, 2008 - 4:47 PMi found myself infront of another mirror...
i looked at myself i was smiling. so i floated into it..i was floating through windows throughout the dream...
i went through it and the second i went through it i saw a hundered reflections of my face all around my..i made a note to remember that part ..it was fun...
i later made a portal through a wall went through it and also i made fire with my hands...
next tim i wanna see if i can rip open the sky or even move a mountain i dunno somehting crazy..and ideas?
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